HomeMy WebLinkAbout1-9-95 HLC MinutesThe January 9,1995 Historic Landmark Commission meeting was called to order at 3:30 p.m.
by Chairman Mary Jane Buttrill.
The following Commissioners were present:
Chairman Mary Jane Buttrill
Commissioner Jessica Foy
Commissioner Sam Pullig
Commissioner JoAnn Stiles (arrived 3:40pm)
Commissioner Walter Sutton
Commissioner Darcy Watler
Commissioner Becki Stedman
The following Commissioners were absent:
Commissioner Raymond Chaison
Commissioner Terrence Holmes
Commissioner Debra Kay Johnson
Commissioner Elmer Embs
Commissioner Bruce Hamilton
Staff present: Stephen Richardson, Secretary; Patsy Ellis, Recording Secretary;
Kimberly James, Planning Technician.
Also present: Councilman -at -Large Andrew Cokinos; Councilman Lulu Smith;
Mary Donnelly, Beaumont Main Street.
Because at this time there was not a quorum, Chairman Buttrill stated that the meeting could
proceed to the Chairman's Report.
CHAHUM"S REPORT
Chairman Buttrill stated that she would like to recommend that all the HC properties be
reviewed by the Comissioners to see what condition they are in.
Chairman Buttrill also suggested that in the future it might be a good idea to set aside five
minutes for education, (i.e. CLG information, Historic Landmark Ordinance, Landmark
functions, how the Commission is structured with the city, how the Commissioners are
appointed by the City Council, etc.).
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APPROVAL OF THE M RJW- S
A motion was made by Commissioner Stiles to approve the minutes, with amendments as
suggested by Chairman Buttrill, of the December 12, 1994 regular meeting.
Commissioner Pullig seconded the motion.
Motion passed 7:0.
PUBLIC HEARING
1) File CA-92: Request for a Certificate of Appropriateness to replace the existing
wood windows with aluminum windows on an HC designated property. Location:
1835 Pennsyvania. Applicant: Rose Marie Owens.
Stephen Richardson stated that according to Ms. Owens, owner of the property,
some changes were made to the house after she received the HC designation. He
stated that no records for approval of these changes can be found. Also, no permits
from Building Codes could be found either. Mr. Richardson stated that the changes
to the structure include extension of the second story out over the front porch,
replacing the original floor of the front porch with one made of concrete, adding a
two-story back porch and replacing several windows with aluminum frame windows.
Ms. Owens has received a $20,000 grant from the City's Housing Services Division
to make improvements to the house. The improvememts include the replacememt
of 28 windows that now exist in the house with "custom painted aluminum windows".
That means is that these windows would be made to fit the existing holes. They
would not be milled windows, which means they would not have the aluminum finish
to them, they would be painted.
Mr. Richardson stated that he has mixed emotions about this particular request. As
the slides will show, there have been some changes made to the house that may mean
that the architectural integrity of the house has been compromised. Based upon that,
aluminum windows may be appropriate for the structure. However, since the house
does have a HC designation, that is important enough that aluminum windows would
not be appropriate for the house. Therefore, it is Staffs recommendation that the
request be denied.
Slides of the house were shown.
Ms. Owens stated that she researched the history of her house. She stated that the
original owner of the house was Jndge Lipsc mb. Ms. Owens stated that she started
the research in 1983 and finished in 1986. At that time it was designated an HC
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overlay. After receiving the designation, she replaced the wooden front porch with
concrete because the wood kept rotting out. Since she had no back porch on the
house, only a shallow stoop with a small awning overhead. She decided to -add a
lower deck and later an upper.deck at the rear. She also built an extension over the
front porch for use as a bedroom. She stated that she was not aware that she had
to receive Historic Commission approval for these changes.
At this time, Ms. Owens asked the Commission to remove the HC overlay on her
house so that she can replace the wood windows with aluminum windows.
Chairman Buttrill asked Mr. Richardson if there has been a precedent for this
request. Mr. Richardson stated that he thought the proper way of doing this would
be to do the proceedure in reverse. The request would have to be brought before
the Historic Landmark Commission, the Planning Commission and City Council as
it is a zoning reclassification.
Commissioner Pullig asked Mr. Richardson if the HC could be removed at this
meeting to save some time since this is a public hearing. Mr. Richardson stated that
he felt it should wait until he had a chance to talk to the legal department to
ascertain the proper proceedings for such an action.
Commissioner Pullig made a motion to assist Ms. Owens in her request to have the
HC designation removed from her home.
Mr. Richardson asked Ms. Owens if she would like to withdraw her application for
a Certificate of Appropriateness at this time. Ms. Owens stated that she would like
to.
Commissioner Watler asked Ms. Owens if by removing the HC designation would it
compromise her ability to receive the $20,000 loan from Housing Services. Ms.
Owens stated that it would not.
Commissioner Sutton seconded Commissioner Pullig's motion.
Motion passed 7:0.
REGULAR MEl?'I'ING:
1} File HCD-1.7 - Request for a Historic Preservation Loan for property in the Oaks
Historic District. Location: 2060 Long. Applicant: L. C. Bowman.
Stephen Richardson stated that Mr. L. G Bowman is the owner of the property at
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2060 Long which is a single-family, residential structure. The property has been
gutted by fire and Mr. Bowmam is trying to upgrade his property and bring it back
to be used as a single-family home.
Mr. Bowman has provided staff with a bid of $28,000. What he hopes to do is to be
able to do some of the work himself to bring the overall cost down as much as
possible. Mr. Bowman has requested $4,600 from the Oaks fund. Mr. Richardson
stated that at this time there is only $5,500 in the fund and to keep the fund from
being depleted, he is recommending that Mr. Bowman receive $3,000.
Mr. Richardson stated that a Certificate of Appropriateness has been approved for
the work on this including the roofing. The house currently has asbestos shingles on
the sides and Mr. Bowman has been able to obtain shingles that match the existing
shingles. Painted aluminum windows has been approved for this house.
Mr. Richardson commended Mr. Bowman on rehabilitating this house and stated
that it will.go a long way in stabilizing that part of the neighborhood.
Slides of the house were shown.
Commissioner Foy stated that it was her understanding that the Oaks fund monies
were to go to repairing the outside of the house and not the inside. She stated that
it would be a lot easier on the Commission if it was designated how and on what the
monies would be used. She stated that it needed to be designated for a specific
aspect of exterior work that falls within the guidelines of that loan program.
Commissioner Pullig stated that because of deterioration on the house, he would like
to see extensive repair work be done to the interior before monies are paid out for
exterior work.
Mr. L. C. Bowman spoke in favor of the request. Mr. Bowman stated that he is
spending a large amount of his own money to restore the house. The house needs
a tremendous amount of work to be done. He is replacing the rafters, roof,
plumbing, electrical, exterior siding, etc. Mr. Bowman stated that he would like to
restore the house so that it will be an asset to the neighborhood.
Commissioner Sutton made a motion to accept Staffs recommendation with the
proviso that all monies be spent solely on. exterior renovation.
Commissioner Watler seconded the motion.
Commissioner Foy asked that if the motion is approved, could Mr. Bowman submit
documentation to the city specifying the exterior renovations the money will be used
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for. Mr. Bowman stated that he could give the Commission itemized statements of
any and everything that has been done from the roof down.
Motion passed 7:0.
2) Revolving Loan Fund - Financial Report:
Stephen Richardson stated that as of 12/31194, there is $28,834.55 in the regular fund
and $5,525.54 in the Oaks fund for a total of $34,360.09.
Chairman Buttrill asked Stephen Richardson if it is up to the Commission to
replenish the Oaks Revolving Loan Fund from the Historic Preservation Loan Fund
on a regular basis. Mr. Richardson stated that the Commission had never established
guidelines about that. He stated that if the Commission wants to designate more
money for the Oaks fund, then the Commission could take action on this.
Chairman Buttrill asked Mr. Richardson to put that on the February agenda.
Commissioner Pullig also asked Mr. Richardson to tell the Commission, in writing,
what the differences are in the Oaks Revolving Loan Fund and the Historic
Preservation Loan Fund.
Commissioner Stedman asked Mr. Richardson if an advertisement for the Historic
Loan Fund had been sent out. Mr. Richardson stated that he sent a memo to David
Bradley from the Oaks Historic District and asked him to let people know about the
loan fund.
3) Januarv/February Calendar of Events:
OTHER BUSINESS
I. Loan Eligibility
Stephen Richardson discussed the loan eligibility portion of the Historic Loan
application. He read "Publicly or privately owned sites or structures that are listed
in or eligible to be listed in the National Register of Historic Places, listed in the
State or Local inventory of Historic Places or designated as a State or Local historic
landmark or district by the appropriate law or ordinance." He stated that in his
opinion if a structure is listed in SPARE, it is in an inventory of historic places.
Commissioner Pullig asked to give an update on the St. Therese Hospital situation.
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He stated that he and Mr. Richardson and several interested parties inspected the
building and calculated that there was approximately 40,000 to 50,000 square feet in
the building. It is structurally very sound. He stated that the interested parties
wanted to make some st?idies on the viability of restoring the building, but that they
thought it could be a sound solution.
Commissioner Foy stated that after the December, 1994 meeting, she received a
phone call from the owner of the Lamar Theater saying that he did not want the
building demolished; that he wanted to try to pay the taxes and renovate the
building. She asked if any new information had come forth about the building. Mr.
Richardson stated that he had talked to Jack Maddox, City fire marshall, about the
situation and they had decided that at this point to back off of the situation. He said
that he drove by the building and that the owner had put up metal bars around the
entrance to secure the building.
Commissioner Foy also asked about the appointment of new members to the
Commission. Mr. Richardson stated that the appointments are handled in the City
Manager's office and that they are working on filling the vacant positions.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.
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