HomeMy WebLinkAbout7-10-95 HLC MinutesA meeting of the Historic Landmark Commission was held on July 10, 1995 with the
following members present:
Chairman Sam Pullig
Vice -Chairman Becki Stedman
Commissioner Albert Ebow
Commissioner Elmer Embs
Commissioner Bruce Hamilton
Commissioner Terrence Holmes
Commissioner Julia Levy
Commissioner JoAnn Stiles
Commissioner Walter Sutton
Commissioner Dorcy Watler
Commissioners absent: Commissioner Marie Broussard
Staff present: Stephen Richardson, Secretary; Murray Duren, Senior Planner; Jill
Cole, Recording Secretary; Kimberly James, Planning Technician;
Tyrone Cooper, First Assistant City Attorney
Also present: Councilman -at -Large Andrew Cokinos; CarolynHoward, Beaumont
Main Street
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
A motion was made by Commissioner Embs to approve the minutes of the May 8, 1995
public hearing and was seconded by Commissioner Watler. Motion to approve carried 8:0.
(Vice -Chairman Stedman arrived.)
PUBLIC HEARING
1) File CA-118: Request for a Certificate of Appropriateness to demolish a house at
1810 Calder.
Location: 1810 Calder
Applicants: Elizabeth Reese Greeves, Executor
Mr. Richardson told the Commission that the subject house is one of three homes
on Calder that was included in the Oaks Historic District when it was created in
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1993. SPARE Beaumont describes the house as being of Craftsman style and built
in 1910. SPARE also states that the house is an example of upper class housing
built on Calder after the first Spindletop boom in Beaumont.
It is the desire of the applicant to demolish the house so that she can sell the
property to A-1 Glass Company.
Mr. Richardson gave some additional background information on the house and said
it was his opinion that the house was a major contributing structure to the Oaks
Historic District. He recommended denial of the request.
In response to questions from Chairman Pullig, Mr. Richardson said the house is not
presently occupied but appears to be in good condition. He also said that he was
given an estimated cost of $15,000 to move the house.
Chairman Pullig asked for comments in favor.
(Commissioner Stiles arrived.)
Speaking in Favor
Elizabeth Greevcs, one of the applicants, addressed the Commission.
Marian Reese, one of the applicants, addressed the Commission.
Chairman Pullig asked for comments in opposition,
Speaking in Opposition
David Bradley
615 N. Fifth Street
George Blake
2098 McFaddin
Mike Therrien
2525 North
June O'Rear
2301 Long
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Chairman Pullig explained to Mrs. Greeves that the purpose of the Historic
Landmark Commission is to identify and preserve historic assets.
Commissioner Embs commented that the house is totally surrounded by commercial
property and feels that using the property for commercial business would be
consistent with the neighborhood. He said he was uncomfortable following the staff
recommendation.
Commissioner Hamilton said he felt that the purpose of the Commission is to
preserve property like the subject house and that the historical value of the property
needs to be considered.
Commissioner Hamilton made a motion to deny the request to demolish the house
at 1810 Calder as stated in File CA-118. Commissioner Stedman seconded the
motion. Motion to deny carried 8:2.
j ) 2) File 1277-Z: Request to remove property at 1810 Calder from HC-D.1. (Oaks
Historic Distict).
Location: 1810 Calder
Applicant: Jeff Green and Greg Green
Mr. Richardson informed the Historic Landmark Commission that the applicant, A-1
Glass Company, wants to purchase the subject property and use it for the expansion
of their business. The applicants feel that in regard to the proposed operation of
their business on the subject property, it would be more practical for the property
to be removed from the Oaks Historic District,
Mr. Richardson explained that he felt not enough time had been given to explore all
the various alternatives for saving the house and that it deserved to be saved. He
recommended tabling the request until all the alternatives could be investigated.
Chairman Pullig asked for comments in favor or in opposition of the request.
Speaking in Favor
Elizabeth Greeves, present owner of the house, spoke in favor or the request.
Speaking in Opposition
Dean Terrebonne
2355 Harrison Beaumont, Texas
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George Blake
2098 McFaddin Beaumont, Texas
June O'Rear
2301 Long Beaumont, Texas
Mike Therrien
2525 North Beaumont, Texas
Jack Carville
2188 North Beaumont, Texas
Vice -Chairman Stedman said although she was not in favor of removing the property
from the Oaks District, she felt that input from A-1 Glass Company was needed
before any decisions could be made.
Commissioner Watler said he would like to see the house restored.
Commissioner Embs said he felt that tabling action on the request was appropriate.
Commissioner Hamilton made a motion to deny the request to remove the property
at 1810 Calder from the Oaks Historic District as stated in File 1277-Z.
Commissioner Holmes seconded the motion. Motion to deny carried 8:1.
(Commissioner Sutton abstained from voting.)
3) File 34-HC: Request to delete and remove the HC-L (Historic Cultural Landmark
Preservation Designation) from the LaSalle Hotel building and property.
Location: 800 Pearl
Applicant: City of Beaumont
Mr. Richardson told the Commission that the LaSalle Hotel was built in 1927 during
the second Spindletop oil boom. It received a National Register designation in July,
1984.
The City of Beaumont recently acquired the LaSalle Hotel and wishes to demolish
the structure. The property will then be used for parking for the postal facility that
Is located nearby.
While several attempts to rehabilitate the structure have been made over the years,
none have proven viable. Therefore, the structure has deteriorated to a point that
is a detriment to downtown.
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The building's construction is such that the ceilings are too low to install
conventional air conditioning duct work. There is also a serious asbestos problem
with the building and elevators are in need of replacement. The cost to bring the
building up to current codes is cost prohibitive.
Mr. Richardson recommended approval of the request to remove the HC-L
Designation from the LaSalle Hotel.
In response to a question from Chairman Pullig, Mr. Richardson said at the time the
HC designation was put on the property, there was a Historic Landmark Commission
in existence.
Commissioner Hamilton asked how much the demolition would cost the City.
Mr. Cooper said the estimated costs would be $150,000 for the asbestos abatement
and $300,000 for the demolition.
In response to a question from Commissioner Watler, Mr. Cooper said that
implosion is the method of demolition to be used.
Mr. Cooper gave information on the study done of the hotel, its value, and how
much it would cost to put the hotel back into some type of usable condition. The
estimated cost was over $1 million.
Discussion foIIowed on the post abatement value of the building.
Commissioner Hamilton asked how many parking spaces would be gained from the
demolition of the hotel.
Mr. Richardson didn't have exact number of spaces.
Commissioner Hamilton asked if the sealing up the building, leaving it intact and
using the space around the building for parking had been considered.
Discussion between Commissioner Hamilton, Mr. Cooper and Mr. Richardson
followed on the cost of demolition, source of funds, and the number of parking
spaces to be gained.
Commissioner Hamilton asked if the Texas Historical Commission was contacted.
Mr. Cooper replied that they had not been contacted.
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Commissioner Sutton noted that existing parking in the downtown area was not
being used and asked if downtown needed additional parking.
Mr. Cooper said when the U.S. Government built the postal facility, they entered
into an agreement with Jefferson County. The City participated with the County on
providing the building as well as the off-street parking for the building. What is
under construction is part of that commitment of off-street parking spaces which is
not enough for what is required by the postal coding facility.
Chairman Pullig asked Mr. Cooper if the City would receive rental fees on the
parking spaces.
Mr. Cooper said the federal government entered into a contract with Jefferson
County for the building and the parking. The City is not a party to that agreement
with the County in which they are to receive the rental fees from parking.
Chairman Pullig asked if anyone present wanted to comment in favor or in
opposition.
Eric Belt, 2226 Evalon, asked about the existing parking garage of the hotel.
Commissioner Watler gave the history of the parking garage and the "car elevator".
SReaking, in Opposition
George Blake
2098 McFaddin Beaumont, Texas
Commissioner Hamilton made a motion to deny the request to remove the HC-L
Designation from the LaSalle Hotel as stated in File 34-HC. Commissioner Sutton
seconded the motion. Motion to deny failed 4:6.
Commissioner Embs made a motion to approve the request to remove the HC-L
Designation from the LaSalle Hotel as stated in File 34-HC. Commissioner Watler
seconded the motion, Motion to approve carried 7:3.
4) File HCD-1.8: Request for a Historic Preservation Loan
Location: 1695 Milam
Applicant: David M. Flynn
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Mr. Richardson told the Commission that the historic preservation loan was
requested for the exterior rehabilitation of the residential structure.
The applicant requested $45,000. According to bid estimates, the exterior work
totals $53,583.
The applicant purchased the home in 1992. The home was built by T. H. Bass, an
oil speculator, in 1901. At one time, the house was converted into apartments. The
current owner has removed the apartments and reverted the use of the structure back
to a single family residence.
Mr. Richardson recommended approval of a loan in the amount of $11,000 with a
payment schedule of $229.17 monthly for a period of 48 months.
Discussion on funds available in the Historic Preservation account.
Chairman Pullig asked for the applicant's comments.
David Flynn, the applicant, addressed the Commission and answered questions
regarding other financing. He said he did have other financing available.
In response to a question from Commissioner Hamilton, Mr. Flynn said he is hopeful
that someone will want to purchase the house after it is renovated for use as a single
family residence, a bed and breakfast or even an architectural firm.
Chairman Pullig asked for comments in favor or in opposition. No comments were
made.
Commissioner Sutton made a motion to accept staffs recommendation of approval
of a loan in the amount of $11,000 for File HCD-1.8. Commissioner Hamilton
seconded the motion. Motion to approve carried 8:1.
5) File HCD-1.9: Request for a Historic Preservation Loan
Location: 400 Orleans
Applicant: Marlin Williford and Bruce Irvine
Mr. Richardson told the Commission that the historic preservation loan was
requested for exterior rehabilitation of a structure that is being converted into
residential apartments and commercial uses at 400 Orleans.
The applicants requested $100,000.
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The structure was built around 1900 and was remodeled in 1940. SPARE Beaumont
classifies this building as compatible with the National Register Beaumont
Commercial Historic District.
The proposed plans involve converting the upper floor of the structure into seven
loft apartments. The first floor will be converted to commercial and tenant parking.
Mr. Richardson recommended approval of a loan in the amount of $20,000.
Chairman Pullig asked for the applicant's comments.
Bruce Irvine, one of the applicants, addressed the Commission. He also owns the
property at 448 Orleans that is adjacent to the subject property.
Marlin Williford, the other applicant, addressed the Commission.
In response to a question from Commissioner Hamilton, Mr. Williford addressed the
plans for the facade of the building.
In response to a question from Commissioner Sutton, Mr. Williford responded that
there would be an elevator installed in the building.
Chairman Pullig asked for comments in favor or in opposition. No comments were
made.
Commissioner Hamilton made a motion to accept staffs recommendation of
approval of a loan in the amount of $20,000 for File HCD-1.9. Commissioner Stiles
seconded the motion. Motion to approve carried 10:0.
6) File HCD-1,10: Request for a Historic Preservation Loan
Location: 1792 Broadway
Applicant: Rette W. Browning and Les E. Warren
Mr. Richardson told the Commission that the historic preservation loan was
requested for exterior rehabilitation of the residential structure.
The applicants requested $37,546.50.
The structure was built in 1902 in the Colonial Revival style. It was built by Stuart
Smith, a prominent Beaumont businessman.
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The property received an HC-L local historic designation in March, 1994, as a
contributing structure to Beaumont's history.
Mr. Richardson recommended approval of a loan in the amount of $11,000.
Chairman Pullig asked for the applicant's comments.
Rette Browning, one of the applicants, addressed the Commission.
Chairman Pullig asked for comments in favor or in opposition. No comments were
made.
Commissioner Hamilton made a motion to accept staffs recommendation of
approval of a loan in the amount of $11,000 for File HCD-1.10. Commissioner Stiles
seconded the motion. Motion to approve carried 10:0.
7) File HCD-1.11: Request for a Historic Preservation Loan
Location: 2226 Evalon
Applicant: Eric and Cathy Belt
Mr. Richardson told the Commission that the historic preservation loan was
requested for exterior rehabilitation of the residential structure.
The applicants requested $6,000.
The property is part of the Oaks Historic District. The house was built in 1949 and
is typical of middle income housing from that time period. The house is an asset to
the neighborhood.
Mr. Richardson recommended approval of a loan in the amount of $4,600.
Chairman Pullig asked for the applicant's comments.
Eric and Cathy Belt, the applicants, addressed the Commission.
Discussion of roof types and siding followed.
Commissioner Watler made a motion to accept staffs recommendation of approval
of a loan in the amount of $4,600 but limiting the use to roof replacement and
windows, not siding, for File HCD-1.11. Commissioner Holmes seconded the
motion. Motion to approve carried 10:0.
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(Commissioner Holmes excused himself from the meeting.)
REGULAR MEETING
1) Revolving Loan Fund - Financial Report
Commissioner Hamilton made a motion to direct staff to apply again this year for
Block Grant monies to increase the funds in the Revolving Loan Program.
Commissioner Sutton seconded the motion. Motion to approve carried 9:0.
2) July and August Calendar of Events
3) Chairman's Report
a) Training Session
b) Proposed Goals Workshop
c) CLG
Chairman Pullig asked the Commission to give some thought to each of these items
so that they can be discussed at the next meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS
Mr. Richardson introduced the newest member of the Historic Landmark Commission,
Commissioner Albert Ebow.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED.
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